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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Feb 15, 2019 10:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Irvine 86

Irvine Meadows 1986

I was at these shows, and wasn't too impressed back then . I wondered if revistering these tapes might surprise me . But they are pretty much as I remember . Uneven . To be honest even though this place was close to where I live (SJC), and even closer to where I worked (Tower EL Toro) , I never enjoyed shows here as much as I did at Long Beach forinstance .

4/12/86
Nothing too remarkable here . You get a "Wille and the Hand Jive”, and I remember liking the “Row Jimmy” .The “Cold Rain” impressed us then, and it does now . The “Estimated” features more Bob lowest common denominator baiting, the “Eyes” is again, super fast . Bob flubs “Truckin”” (he did it so often that some though he did it intentionally, I mean he can recall “Desolation Row”, “Memphis Blues Again”, and “Hard Rain” flawlessly, but not his "Truckin' ? A “Mighty Quinn” encore always a good thing in my book . A just ok show . Nothing too great, nothing too bad .
I have a different set of AUD’s that what is posted on the Archive, was it form a taper friend ? I lamely didn’t write down my source . But this one will do .
https://www.last.fm/festival/1069482+Newport+Pop+Festival+1968/lineup?page=1

4/13/86
An “Iko” opener is a good sign …sometimes . Most of the first set is unremarakabl , but the interesting sequnce of “Half Step>Supplication>Let It Grow” is worth it .A true highlight .
The second set start off fine with a “China>Rider” . “ Next comes one of those version of “Looks Like Rain” that I hate . Emotionally unconvincing, super cheesy crowd baiting, Uggh . And then the infamous “Terrapin” whee Jerry bails out mid song (mother nature ?) . To cover they do “Don’t need Love “ And so goes the rest of the show . Ending with another of my “favorites”, “Throwing Stones>Love Lite” . The “Box of Rain is good though .
Wildly uneven show . Some might enjoy it more than I .
https://archive.org/details/gd1986-04-13.Senn421.Darby.119475.Flac2448

Mabe check out the “Cold Rain” from the first night . The end of set one of the second night is actually pretty hot . Maybe the best of those “Supplication>Let It Grow”s .

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Poster: turnphilup Date: Feb 16, 2019 7:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Irvine 86

Interesting insights DD. How many more shows did you see after this, and why did you keep going back? Just curious. I want to compare to my own experience as someone whose first show was not till '88. I wonder if I would have kept going back after these myself? Thanks for the highlights as always. Peace

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Feb 16, 2019 1:39pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Irvine 86

Perhaps a word should be said, that despite how lacking a show might be, and how critical I may sound, I always enjoyed the shows, always had a good time, though sometimes better than others . Even a flawed Grateful Dead concert was a GRATEFUL DEAD concert . Diamondhead mentions the hope factor . You generally knew that if one show was weak, the next was usually going to be better, and there was always the chance that it might be special, even in this relatively weak period
Things did seem to be looking up toward the end of the 80's, into early 90's . But even near the end they could pull out some incredible moments that just no one else did . Because they (mostly Garcia) could reach you in such a friendly and warm(sometimes profound) way, there was a bond with us that kept us coming back, and collecting shows, etc.
And writing glib reviews .

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Feb 16, 2019 10:39am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Irvine 86

I was at these shows too. I think the answer to your question is hope.

Oh and Irvine was a pain in the ass. Imo of course.

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Poster: Vermoontains Date: Feb 16, 2019 6:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Irvine 86

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uYVPvtLan0

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Poster: Dudley Dead Date: Feb 17, 2019 8:58am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Irvine 86

Good example of what they could do on a good night in that late 80's period .

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Poster: Vermoontains Date: Feb 17, 2019 11:18am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Irvine 86

I have been listening watching the Dylan Dead shows from 87 and bumped into this. I really got a kick out of this hot show, So What he plays and a real good Fire too.

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Poster: Mark Scalise Date: Feb 17, 2019 4:33am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Irvine 86

Was there as well. We were hoping Terrapin would arise and get finished out of Drums, but alas, no. Jerry was well along the diabetic path, so maybe he had to pee or just wasn't feeling right. Or whatever. :)